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Machines That Listen

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With so much hype around AI, it’s hard to know what to think of it. In one moment, AI applications can appear benevolent, even helpful. Like when Netflix offers up viewing suggestions, or Amazon recommends an item you might like. It can also be intrusive. Facial recognition, for instance, can and has been used to track and screen innocent people simply going about their business. AI, you might say, wears many faces. One moment, it’s Big Brother watching your every move. The next, it’s R2D2 trying to save your life. 

I’m dramatizing, but you get the point. Now, apparently AI-enabled machines are learning to listen; so well, in fact, that advanced technology is able to decipher subtle tones, language variances and emotional nuances, virtually inaudible to the human ear. In so doing, it can determine the sentiment of the speaker. And that, says Walt Mayo, CEO of expert.ai, can make a world of difference.
AI Beats Pollsters in Predicting US Presidential Outcome

Take the just concluded US Presidential race, for instance, Walt and his colleagues put their technology to the test and three weeks before the election, calculated that Joe Biden would receive 50.2% of the popular vote compared to 47.3% for Trump. It struck me as a bit of a marketing ploy at the time, and a risky one at that. Why would a tech company stick its neck out with this kind of prediction when every other major poll prior to the election had Biden trouncing Trump by at least an eight percent margin?

The results are now official with Biden winning the popular vote by 51% to 47.2%. Yet, the real victor was AI. How did this relatively small tech company blow the doors off a phalanx of seasoned and highly certain professional pollsters? I asked Walt to join me in this episode of Inside Asia to share his story and talk about the future of so-called “sentiment analysis” AI.
The Things Machines Can Do

Our discussion fleshed out one big question: Are we entering a period of runaway technology so potent that it could replace many of the skills we as humans have come to take for granted? Walt points out that what’s easy for humans is not always easy for advanced machines.
Programming a robot to walk, for instance, requires thousands of data inputs, feedback loops, and adjustments to manage surge, sway, heave, yaw, roll, pitch….the list of commands goes on and on. I said it was difficult, but not impossible.

Check out this YouTube video of one particularly agile bi-pedal robot from Boston Dynamics. How quickly is the robot design field moving? So fast, that robots are increasingly able to teach themselves to walk, as evidenced by a recent Google project. It took only a few hours for this machine to teach itself to perambulate by tapping into AI and a data network that contained all the information required.
The Art of Listening

But what about some of the finer skills primarily associated with humans? Like listening. As a higher species, we’re blessed with the gift of language and while these days it feels like people are more interested in talking than listening, we have the ability. The question is: Are we making the most of it? Consumed, as we are, by social media, it leaves the impression that everyone has something to say. If only that were true. Sociologists and psychologists tell us that it’s shaping our listening habits and instigating new levels of so-called communication bias. Filters, in other words. We’ve started to hear what we want to hear and less of what’s actually being said. 

To some degree, that might explain the repeated failings of pollsters. And it certainly speaks to the polarization of people who are selecting to hear whatever reinforces their own beliefs or frame-of-mind. If technologies like expert.ai have an imbedded ability to detect 80+ different “sentiments,” and segment them in order to best determine what someone really believes, then what chance do we and our biological brains have in competing with that? 
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Articles, Reports & Insights
Article: "What Went Wrong with Polling? Some Early Theories," by Nate Cohn, The New York Times, Nov. 10, 2020 [here]

A bit of an exhaustive - and speculative - analysis of what went wrong, how pollsters failed to make adjustments following the 2016 election, and what a final data autopsy will likely reveal.

Article: "Why Polls were Mostly Wrong," by Gloria Dickie, Scientific American, Nov. 13, 2020 [here]

The article looks at the failure of US polling in an interview with Princeton University neuroscientist Sam Wang, who tends to excuse the polling process more than explain it.

Article: "Election Polls were a Disaster this Year. Here's how AI could Help," by Arijit Sengupta, Fast Company, Nov. 16, 2020 [here]

The writer describes how AI-enabled sentiment analysis revealing not what consumers say they want, but by their actual behaviors. Amazon, Netflix and other mega e-commerce companies have long employed the technology to make proactive recommendations on what they believe a customer is most inclined to buy.

Report: "Artificial Intelligence and Southeast Asia's Future," McKinsey Global Institute, September 2017. [here]

A slightly dated report showing ASEAN's rate of AI adoption and the need for governments to take a stronger role in promoting its development and application.

Report: "Freedom to Conduct Opinion Polls: A 2017 Worldwide Update," ESOMAR and the World Association for Public Opinion Research, 2018. [here]

The two organizations sponsoring the report seek to track the freedom to gather public opinion insights through polling surveys and show that 79 out of the 133 countries surveyed for this report place some sort of embargo or restriction on public polling - an increase from three years earlier.

Blog: "Making Sense of the 2020 Presidential Polls with NLU," by Jay Selig, expert.ai, Nov. 16, 2020 [here]

This is expert.ai's attempt to explain how their technology proved superior in predicting the US Presidential election outcome.
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